What does Jesus have to say about homosexuality?


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I do not think there is a topic on earth that gets Evangelical Christians, Roman Catholics and Neo-Nazis quite so hysterical and united as Homosexuality. In America, they have anti-gay rallies, organised by the fundamentalist Christian church where they call for gays to be hung, why? Is it because their church loves God and believes in the Grace of Jesus? No, I don’t think so.

To them, the term “Gay Christian” is an oxymoron , according to most Evangelicals, they cannot exist. If you are gay, you cannot be a Christian. If you are a “proper” Christian, you cannot be homosexual or have same sex attraction. (SSA).

Well here’s the good news…
GOD LOVES HOMOSEXUALS. God loves sinners, he doesn’t love the sin, but still loves the sinner. Did God sent his son to earth to only save heterosexuals from their sin? No. He also sent his son to save homosexuals, to save metro-sexuals, every sexuals! He also sent his son to save gay haters, gay bashers and the mobs, even those who believe they are not sinning by hating others.

After all, what did Jesus say about everyone? “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbour as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” He said this without exception, he did not say “Love your neighbour as yourself except if he’s gay, except if they’re Muslim, except people with mental illness, except if they are socially inadequate”, he meant everyone without exception, white, black, Asian, gay, straight, disabled, mentally ill……….

So, getting back to the question, what did Jesus say about homosexuality. Well the photograph right at the beginning of this muse says it all, absolutely nothing, zilch, not a word, nowt, zero. He had a lot to say about marriage and divorce, but nothing about being gay. In America, Christians even recruit children and innocents and indoctrinate them to hate before they have even realised their own sexuality. Imagine being brought up wearing this t-shirt and finding out during your maturing years that you have same sex attraction….

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Children learning to hate.

This intolerance is why so many sons and daughters of so-called Christians commit suicide once they realise their sexual orientation goes against their upbringing. One in Four gay teenagers in America commits suicide. Is that what Jesus wants? ……Rhetorical question. I know it’s not what I want and I sincerely hope it’s not what you want either.

What are the biblical arguments against homosexuality? Here are a few. If you want an answer to the rest, them message me below.
“But don’t send me hate mail, it will have no effect on me as I am under God’s grace and protection. But it may hurt you if you are not under His grace.”

Argument 1. Nothing was recorded in the bible about Jesus preaching on homosexuality because they could not write down everything he said. There were many events, miracles, prophesies and preaches which were never recorded.

Answer 1. The bible is the inspired word of God. If God wanted it in there, it would be there. You cannot use the argument that God left it out. God’s word is complete, we should neither add anything nor take anything away. We cannot interpret His word to suit our own ends and cannot twist His word or take verses out of context just to help an argument. But remember, the NT outranks the OT. Before Christ, we were under the law of God. Now we are under the grace of God. Most of what was said in the Old Testament has been overridden by the teachings of Jesus as is shown in the next argument…..

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Using the bible to promote Hate

Argument 2. In Leviticus 20 v13 it says “If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”

Answer 2: True, that is the law of Moses. But we are no longer under the law. As Paul said in Romans 6:14 “For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.” Under grace, what a wonderful term, but what does it mean. I am afraid that it is a bit of what I call Christianise, a jumbled and archaic language used to keep non-Christians at bay! Grace is simple, it is all about the undeserved love of God. It is about Jesus, God’s son who paid for our wrong doing by taking our punishment, it about how, by putting your faith in Jesus, you can be released from sin and have an eternal life in heaven, with God.

Argument 3: Genesis 2:24 “That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.”

Answer 3: Although used as an argument by many Christians, there is no reference to homosexuality anywhere in the verse or in the passage, taken out of context, it could be twisted to mean only relations between a man and a woman. I however believe that the meaning is simpler than that. When a man and a woman are united as one flesh, children appear. When a man is united with anything else, be it another man, a blow-up doll or a loaf of bread, no children will be born. So this much-misquoted verse is talking about procreation and only about procreation.

Argument 4: 1 Corinthians 6 vs 9 & 10 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”

Answer 4: Part of a list of “sins” including idolaters, who is not in some respect an idol worshiper, who has never loved money, cars, football teams, personalities, possessions etc? Who has not loved their wife, son, daughter, brother or sister more than Christ? The greedy, who has never over eaten, who could not shift a few pounds weight because of greed? Who has never had a drink too many? etc…etc… But all the bigots focus on is the part of the teaching which suits them and their argument.

What about adulterers, Jesus gives very clear teaching about divorce and that if a divorced person remarries they commit adultery, so how come we don’t take them outside and stone them? (Metaphorically speaking).

Read on to the next verse and put it into context: 11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. – God forgives and continues to forgive homosexuality.

Scientists have found that being homosexual is not a life style choice, it is not as the result of nurture, it is not a habit which can be stopped like cigarette smoking. Scientists have isolated what they have called, the gay gene. So it is genetic. If you choose not to believe that, that is your choice, your bigotry, your hatred, your lack of grace. Homosexuality is genetic, it is nature, not nurture that makes people gay. And don’t forget, that they are made in the image of God. Just as disabled people are made in the image of God. Mentally ill people are made in the image of God. Autistic children are made in the image of God. Downes children are made in the image of God. You and me, we are made in the image of God. You wouldn’t hate autistic or disabled or Downes children just because they are different, would you?

Fundamentally, this comes down to love and acceptance, I know Gay people, I have gay friends, being gay does not make them bad people, because they are gay they do not go around doing bad things.

I have friends who are divorced, Jesus had a lot to say about divorce, but no one bats an eyelid, divorce is normal……..except of course it is against the teachings of Jesus. But hey, it fits in with what some people like, homosexuality doesn’t. You never see an anti-divorce rally, especially not in America where nearly 40% of “Christian” marriages end in divorce. No one goes divorcee bashing. There would be an outrage. But gay bashing? Police in Russia will beat you up again for reporting that you have been attacked for being gay.

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Victim of Gay Hate in America

So let’s have a bit of love and tolerance. I am an evangelical Christian, I believe in God, I believe in Jesus, I believe that God loves everyone just where they are right now, gay, straight, metrosexual or slightly odd! I believe in the sanctity of marriage, I believe in the right of the unborn child and pro-life awareness. I believe that God loves us all, without regard for our sexual orientation. He still hates wrongdoing, but unlike most people, he forgives, forgives and goes on forgiving. Again and again and again. In spite of ourselves and because of ourselves.

All are sinners and have fallen short of the standards of behaviour of God. But God still loves us, because God loves sinners but not sin, God loves divorcees but not divorce, God loves Homosexuals but not the act, God loves even me, God loves even you.


However, having said all that, here is a useful resource if you’re interested in learning about a Christian perspective on same-sex attraction or addiction to pornography: http://www.focuspublishing.com/html/individual-books/way-of-purity.html

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Setting a Strong Example of Faith

I could have no greater joy than to hear that my children are following the truth.3 John 1:4

For the Christian couple, the greatest joy is to see our children walking in truth. This sentiment is echoed by the apostle John in his last epistle. He considered the believers his “children” since he had been a father figure to them as their faith grew, and their faithfulness to Christ brought him much joy. Conversely, the greatest sorrow is seeing our children turn away from God.

The greatest influence we have on our children’s religious beliefs happens in the first eighteen years of their lives. Children listen to what we say, and they observe our actions. The closer our practice is to our preaching, the more our children respect our faith. However, the greater the distance between what we proclaim and what we practice, the less likely they are to follow our religious beliefs.

What if our children are already grown, and we failed to do this when they were young? It is never too late to say, “I realise that when you were growing up, my lifestyle did not demonstrate very well what I claimed to believe. I wish I could go back and live parts of my life again. Of course, that’s impossible, but I want you to know that I regret the way I failed you.” This, coupled with a changed life, opens the door for further influence on your adult child. None of us are perfect. Dealing with past failures is the first step to renewed relationships.

Heavenly Father, you know how deeply I yearn to see my children walking in faithfulness to you. I ask your forgiveness for the times when I was not a good role model. Please help my spouse and me to be honest about our failures, and may they not stand in the way of our children’s belief. Amen.

D.I.V.O.R.C.E.

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DIVORCE, WHAT THE BIBLE HAS TO SAY….

There is a word never spoken in church. a word never preached on, not discussed at bible studies and not even prayed over at prayer meetings. A word so terrible that we spell it out rather than say it out loud. D.I.V.O.R.C.E. At least, when Tammy Wynette sung that terrible (my opinion, and not necessarily yours), terrible song in1968 (and yes, I am old enough to remember it), she spelt it out rather than say it out loud so as not to upset 4-year-old little Joe.

It’s the same in Church, nobody mentions the “D” word! Let’s face it, when did you last hear Matthew 5:31 preached on? “It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’ 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery”. I have heard the Sermon on the Mount from which this is taken preached on so many times, but the preacher neatly skips over these 2 verses and carries on regardless. So let’s work through a few of the subjects in the famous sermon.
The Beatitudes – Easy one that
Salt and Light – Oh yes, just give a few good examples
Fulfillment of the Law – Simple, just confuse them with a bit of theology
Murder – Should be safe, none in the cburch that I know of.
Adultery – Again, should be a safe one, after all, no one’s going to put their hand up.
Divorce – Better miss that one, might upset 20% of the congregation, can’t have them all walking out, the treasurer wouldn’t like it. Anyway, it’s not important
Oaths – Simple

Eye for an Eye – Simple

Love for Enemies – Easy one for a good preach.

…..and so on, but……Jesus says about divorce twice in Matthew and again in Mark, so it might be important!
Jesus actually said these things twice, in Matthew 19:8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery”.

Mark 10: 6-12 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’[a]7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,[b] 8 and the two will become one flesh.’[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” 10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this.11 He answered, “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery”.

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Now this is all very difficult stuff to read, especially if you are divorced. In the USA one in four “Christian” marriages end in divorce. Figures for the UK are not available, but I am sure they will also paint a sorry picture.

Oh, but we can justify divorce because it was permitted by Moses. But Jesus said, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.

One important fact that we have to say very clearly is: “God loves divorced people” He loves them just the same as married people, single people, people living with partners, widows and widowers. That doesn’t mean that he loves divorce. He hates divorce, but he still loves the people involved. He hates adultery, but still loves the people involved.

The problem today is many have an easy, no blame, cast aside view of marriage. People say their vows before God with their fingers crossed behind their backs. There is no commitment, marriage is a bed of roses, fragrant flowers and sharp thorns together. You have to work at a marriage, there has to be an attitude of give and take not just take. If you are finding marriage a struggle, try putting down your mobile, looking away from FaceBook, come off Twitter, close your laptop and look your partner in the eyes and talk. Give them some undivided attention. Do it every day, several times a day. Ask about them, don’t just talk about “me”. You may think that sounds too simplistic, well it isn’t. What most marriages lack today is “us time”. “Us time” is where you turn off the TV, silence the mobile, ignore the telephone and just enjoy each others company. I have spoken to many struggling people, and often when the three of us sit down to talk about their marriage, that is the first time for years that they have sat down together and talked in an open and frank way to each other. Most people don’t need a counsellor, they just need space and time to get to know each other. I was going to put “get to know each other again”, but for some, even after years of marriage, it might be getting to know them for the first time properly. Discuss their hopes and fears, not yours, talk over their perceived problems, not yours. Often you may start a sentence with “But I thought you liked it when I…..” or “I thought you enjoyed going to…….” Don’t think about what you think your partner wants or wishes. Ask them. Don’t assume you know anything, enquire about everything.

If you can pray together without embarrassment, then pray together and for each other. Don’t use prayer time to drop little bombshells or have little digs, you will not be blessed and it won’t help your healing. If you can’t pray together, make sure you pray for each other earnestly. Lay out before God what is wrong. Confess to him what you are doing wrong and seek forgiveness. Do not tell God what is wrong with your husband or wife, he can hear that from them. (He actually knows already). If you are going to have that long awaited talk with your wife or husband, pray first that you will be guided and prompted by the Holy Spirit.

Don’t end a marriage, mend a marriage.

May God bless you for reading this missive.


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A Modern Psalm

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Did the elders not seek your face?
Did they not pray out loud to you?
Did they not wait upon you
And seek your guidance?

Did we not fast and pray
To do your good pleasure?
Late into the night
To seek your true guidance?

Did we not take your precepts to the people?
Did we not tell them the word from the Lord?
Then why oh Lord have they not heard?
Why Oh Lord do they not listen to your truths?

Are we like prophets of old?
Despised in our own house.
For You will withdraw Your blessing,
From a house divided against itself.

When they say, oh Lord,
We do not like the style of worship,
Did they ask you?
Did they really seek your face?

When they say Lord,
We do not like the drums
We do not like the cymbals
Do they argue with your Psalms?
The unerring word of God?

Praise Him with the sounding of the trumpet,
Praise Him with the harp and lyre,
Praise Him with tambourine and dancing,
Praise Him with the strings and flute,
Praise Him with the clash of cymbals,
Praise Him with resounding cymbals.
Let everything that has breath praise the LORD.
Praise the LORD.

Where oh Lord does it say
Praise Him with long faces
Praise Him with frowns and without movement
Praise Him on the mighty organ
Be downcast and Praise the Lord.

Is it all about you, Lord? Is it all about you?
Or is it all about me Lord? All about me.
For now you have withdrawn you blessing
From a house divided against itself.

Who’s church is it anyway?
Is it your church Lord? The church of the Lord?
Or the church of fools? Whose god is the church ?
Divided against itself,
for its own pleasure and destruction.
Separated from You until you heal its wounds.

Lord have mercy on us.
Lord have mercy on us.
Lord have mercy on us.
May the name of the Lord be praised.

Marriage – An institution?

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Marriage is often described as an institution, even a great institution, ordained by God. Poppycock. An institution is somewhere they send you once the straight jacket is on. That statement itself might strike a chord with some, especially the straight jacket bit, as that is how many people view marriage. As soon as they get that ring on your finger, they’ll have you in a straight jacket, you son’s be able to move without permission.

Well I have news, marriage is not an institution, it is a relationship. Admittedly, it not always easy, sometimes it needs working at, often it is quite difficult. But at the end of the day, it is a relationship. It is not a place for control, ego or selfishness, especially if a Christian marriage, it is not even about give and take. It is about give, give and give some more.

But, what does the bible have to say on the subject?

Paul, in his first letter to the Corinthians (chapter 7) starts us off well by saying: “A man does well not to marry. and some would agree, but he was not saying it for that reason. He believed that Christ should be central to our being and that marriage might be a diversion. He went on to say in the next few verses 2 But because there is so much immorality, every man should have his own wife, and every woman should have her own husband. 3 A man should fulfil his duty as a husband, and a woman should fulfil her duty as a wife, and each should satisfy the other’s needs. 4 A wife is not the master of her own body, but her husband is; in the same way a husband is not the master of his own body, but his wife is.” – Men, please take note of the second part of the last verse!

Now there are some interesting statements which show relationship. Firstly, every one should have their own spouse and not someone else’s. But more interesting is the equality that Paul suggests in the following verses, no suggestion of the man lauding it over the woman, or vice versa I might add. Men often seem to cling on to the “head of the household” notion when they talk of marriage. But Paul is not suggesting this. Even in his letter to the Ephesians where there is the much misquoted verses 22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Saviour. The word “submit” is not there in the original Greek. As for being head of the wife as Christ is head of the Church, that too is misread to man’s advantage. We omit the next bit! 25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her. Read and reflect. Love your wife as Christ loved you, and that meant dying for you. Would you lay down your life for your wife? Note however, the favour is not returned, no where does it say wives love your husbands enough to die for them. Later in the same section we get 33However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband. Again the emphasis is on the husband doing the running and doing the loving, what do we get in return? Respect!

Christ is God, God is Spirit, in heaven there is no pecking order, God is not in charge of Jesus, the Holy Spirit is not the third part of the trinity in rank. God the father is not Colonel in chief and Christ his lieutenant. They are in an equal relationship because there is only one God. Jesus does not have his own agenda, the Spirit does not go and do his or her own thing, they are one and the same and beyond our comprehension. This is how it should be in marriage, the bible says that when a man marries a woman they also become one. Equal partners? No, not at all, a partnership is still made up of more than one, The Trinity is not a partnership. Marriage is not a partnership. It is a however a relationship where each delight in the other person. Expectancy rather than expectations, which is different from expecting something from the other. God does not have any expectations from us, only the excitement of expectancy. Marriage is very much like our relationship with God. We are often told to put God first, above all other things. Well I do not believe that is the way our Father sees it at all. God wants to be at the centre of our lives, not on top of us like a big boss, remote and frightening. He does not want to be the first amongst a list of values, but the centre of everything. It is the same with a marriage. It should be a central facet of our joint existence, not a hierarchical system. Then it will work.

But what if it doesn’t?

Paul says, 10 For married people I have a command which is not my own but the Lord’s: a wife must not leave her husband; 11 but if she does, she must remain single or else be reconciled to her husband; and a husband must not divorce his wife.” (Corinthians 7:10,11: see also Matthew 5:32 ; 19:9 ; Mark 10:11 , 12 ; Luke 16:18 .)

Jesus is especially blunt on the subject in Mark Ch10, where he says “He said to them, “A man who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against his wife. 12 In the same way, a woman who divorces her husband and marries another man commits adultery.” Now there is a couple of verses and a subject you don’t hear preached on. But that might be a subject for another time……

Remember: 21Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. Ephesians 5:21